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You are not logged in. Please login or register. Pages 1 You must login or register to post a reply 1 20-02-2025 10:24 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Topic: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Hello everyone,I'm testing the trial version of Pianoteq (stage and standard) I find really good and inspiring.I have a question about overtones, in a YouTube video I saw a user with the Pro version playing overtones (always a problem in sampled pianos)However when I tried to play overtones on my trial version only the 1st and octave overtones would be really heard.I.e. if I play C4 muted, I can make resonate the other strings only playing C3 and C5, C6...If I play E3 for example to make the sympathetic C strings resonate I can hardly hear anything if at all.So are overtones different across section of Pianoteq?Also in said video the user was able to bring the velocity down to zero thus playing only the overtones, without the fundamental, I wasn't able to replicate that too on my trial version...Any idea of what's going on?Many thanks 2 Reply by brundlefly 27-02-2025 01:25 brundlefly Member Offline Registered: 31-03-2022 Posts: 212 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq being used as resonance FX for another instrument in which case you would send the MIDI to both the main instrument and Pianoteq but pull the velocity curve down to zero so that Pianoteq resonates based the audio input from the main instrument and which dampers are raised (per the MIDI input) without its strings being directly hammered.I'm not sure right offhand whether the demo can be used as a resonance FX and I suspect you need at least Pianoteq Standard to get it, but all verisons should have the basic resonance response for all the internal sounds; you just don't have as much control over them in Stage. 3 Reply by vertumno 03-03-2025 14:48 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? brundlefly wrote:Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq being

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And a well engineered sampled piano is just as (if not more) capable of producing a natural organic quality.I'm the person who made that statement, and I don't think it's BS. I said that after having played Pianoteq and Garritan CFX side by side. Pianoteq simply felt better to play. I prefer to play it. Does it actually sound better? I don't know, pretty sure if I just play a single key on each the Garritan CFX note sounds better, more natural. Why then, do I prefer to play Pianoteq? Maybe it's just the playability, and I prefer Pianoteq even though it sounds worse. But that's certainly not the way my mind works. Pianoteq feels better to play, so it sounds better while you're playing.Doesn't matter if it is BS, though. The Pianoteq demo is free and nearly fully functional, and a quick and simple install. Anybody who cares to try can demo them side by side and decide for themselves.Last edited by hes; 11/26/22 06:36 PM.Joined: Jul 2012Posts: 10,55910K Post Club Member10K Post Club MemberJoined: Jul 2012Posts: 10,559It would seem that the way to compare would be against the action acoustic from which it was derived. Or, alternatively, an acoustic of perceived and agreed high standard..A CFX wouldn't compare to a Steinway D for example. Or even a Kawai Shigeru, which I dare say, was designed to out-gun its rival, the Yamaha.I bet there'd still be disagreement. It'd be fun to see the tempers raised, and folk chucking pianos at each other . . . ."Nobody's heard of Queenadreena"Joined: Dec 2021Posts: 117Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Dec 2021Posts: 117Some of us have fiddled with Pianoteq for years only to realise that the farther you get away from default, the harder it becomes. So you settle for what you get with the presets, and rest content to reduce it's condition as you point out. It's much better that way. I prefer to reduce it quite a lot; at least 60 on the slider and also on the unisons.Indeed, you can mess up the sound completely if you tweak too much. I watched a video by a piano tuner explaining the parameters in more detail, that was interesting. But I'd still make it bad if I change it too much.60% on the condition slider sounds like a lot! I think it's always sounded too worn passed 90 for me. But it obviously depends on taste, and it can even be useful if someone is looking for that kind of sound sound.Joined: Nov 2022Posts: 2Junior MemberJunior MemberJoined: Nov 2022Posts: 2This is a very impressive software, but I don't really like it. It is a bit too cold, too bright.I know we can change every

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Welcome to the Piano World Piano ForumsOver 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments. Over 100,000 members from around the world.Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!SEARCHPiano Forums & Piano World Who's Online Now30 members (beeboss, Christ, dire tonic, Dan 67, JanK, GWard21, Frank Illenberger, CraiginNZ, 6 invisible),1,131guests, and 153robots.Key: Admin, Global Mod, ModOP500 Post Club MemberJoined: Oct 2016Posts: 501I recently upgraded my Pianoteq studio edition (Pteq pro + all instrument packs) to version 7. I've used Pianoteq 5 the 6 for a number of years and, while I've enjoyed the playability, in my view it never quite matched the realism of any of the sampled VST packages I own (Garritan, Ravenscroft, Synology, Galaxy, VSL, Bechstein, Production Voices, VI labs,...). I've played several hours using Pianoteq 7, trying out all of the pianos, but spending most of my time with the Steinway D, with a minimum of fiddling with settings. I think Modartt has broken through the realism barrier with this release. I would encourage anyone who's tried and written off prior Pianoteq versions to try out version 7. I played a Steinway M for many years growing up and have played Steinway B and D pianos. This is what they sound like (well, actually better than that Model M).(extended rant follows)My VST computer recently crashed and while all of my samples are on SSD USB drives, I'm faced with reinstalling. Download. Pianoteq is based on the physical model, offered in Pianoteq 3 and Pianoteq 3 Pro.in Pianoteq 3 and Pianoteq 3 Pro. Pianoteqin Pianoteq Play With Pianoteq Play you

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